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If I lose Fox, I'll unload
If I lose Fox, I'll unload TimeWarner Cable, fast.
"Channels affected by Time
"Channels affected by Time Warner Cable / Fox contract dispute
There is a lot of misinformation about the contract negotiations between Time Warner Cable and Fox Networks going around. Here are the only channels that would be affected if the contract does not get renewed by New Years Day."
Seeing as how this site is on the world wide interweb and as such people outside of the Fox Valley may read it, the above quote should probably be changed to include something along the lines of "the only channels that would be affected on Time Warner Cable in NE Wisconsin if the contract does not get renewed by New Years Day...".
In other areas of the country, the local Fox Network and MyNetworkTV (or whatever that Fox owned 4th rate rerun station is called) and maybe some other Fox owned channels may also go dark.
For our area- these 6 channels are on my list of 50 or more other channels I get that could go away and I wouldn't even notice that they're gone.
This tells me that Fox is not
This tells me that Fox is not negotiating in good faith. This looks like Murdock's shot across the bow too all video providers.
If all six services were dropped all together never to return I would not miss them. The heck with Murdock and all of his crap services.
Do Not Roll Over for News Corps and their schlock content.
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NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Fox Network refused Wednesday to agree to an offer by Time Warner Cable to enter arbitration with the Federal Communications Commission to resolve an ongoing fee dispute.
Fox and Time Warner Cable have been locked in a public battle over how much the cable giant should pay News Corp. for the right to deliver Fox networks into its subscribers' homes.
Talks are still ongoing, but if a deal is not reached before the Dec. 31 deadline, all of the Fox-owned broadcast networks and some of its cable channels could disappear from some Time Warner Cable subscribers' televisions on New Year's Day.
The Fox statement cohttp://money.cnn.com/2009/12/30/news/companies/time_warner_cable_fox_kerry/index.htm
I think at some point in
I think at some point in time, someone is going to have to step in and mediate these agreements between the content providers and the cable/satellite/telco companies. This is happening way too often and the end user is getting shafted with higher prices and service interruptions.
If there was any time for the cable/satellite/telco companies to go a-la-carte, this is the time. If not, the FCC will get involved and make a mess of it like they've done with a national broadband policy.
I think if a-la-carte ever
I think if a-la-carte ever happened, Fox would be asking for a hell of a lot more than $1 per subscriber.
Not to mention that you would
Not to mention that you would need a set-top box for every TV in your house that you would want to watch. Also your rates would likely go even higher with a-la-carte because TV Service Providers and Broadcasters negotiate prices based on channel bundle deals.
I do think it would be great if they offered a-la-carte packages where you could get channels you want in groups. Example: 10 channels for $10, 15 channels for $15...
That way you would get a group of channels that you actually want to watch without the "fillers".
Good point. Never even
Good point. Never even thought about the implications a-la-carte would have on analog cable. I suppose it is true that if you want to pick and choose channels, you would have to not only pay more for each channel separately (because the content providers would have to subsidize a drop in viewers) but also leasing extra boxes so the cable companies filter out the channels you choose not to receive.
I really don't think a-la-carte is as magical as people think it is. If all you wanted to get was MTV, you're not going to pay 25 cents a month on your bill. You're gonna pay more than that because Viacom will price it higher for you, you have to lease cable boxes, you'd pay some sort of "service" fee to support the cable infrastructure and delivery into your home, etc. It's not as simple as people want to believe it is.
WARNING- LONG RAMBLING A LA
WARNING- LONG RAMBLING A LA CARTE RANT
I can buy the arguments against a la carte programming based on cable companies having existing contracts that would be hard to change and the need to subsidize certain channels by spreading the cost of those channels across their entire customer base, but the equipment associated with making a la carte programming being an obstacle is a weak argument.
If the cable industry were to get behind the idea of a la carte programming (and had the contracts in place that would allow it), they could find a way to do it without requiring rental boxes on every TV in your house. The only way that is going to happen though is if they’re forced into actually letting people own their own equipment and into embracing emerging technology- something that the gov’t attempted to force on them but failed miserably at via the whole CableCard fiasco.
I foresee a la carte programming becoming a viable option for many people in the near future- in fact in some ways it already is- it just won’t happen in the near future via any of the existing providers. Where it will come from is the internet.
What needs to happen for internet a la carte programming to become a rival to cable/satellite TV:
1) Continued improvements in streaming technology. Quality has improved vastly over the last couple of years, but it’s still not quite on par with what can be had via cable/satellite.
2) More channels/networks starting to offer their full programming via internet streaming and subscription fees. Examples of how this can work are the MLB baseball package and ESPN360. The groundwork is laid and I think it’s just a matter of time before the dam bursts and other channel providers follow suite.
3) A software program and then later a set top box that allows people to easily change between and record their subscribed internet streaming channels.
What’s going to be interesting is if internet a la carte programming does become a rival to cable TV what the existing broadband ISPs will do to fight it seeing as how they are mostly all now involved in the TV providing business. My guess would be attempts to limit or throttle access to streaming and tight capping and rate increases and requiring a TV package to get internet.
I just recently switched my cell phone service to Sprint and an example of current a la carte TV is their SprintTV service. The quality isn’t always great (depends on your available signal), but in addition to their “free” offerings (the full version of the NFL Network being the coolest IMO) you can subscribe to several channels individually- ESPN is the one I’ve considered subscribing to at $3.99 a month (I travel a lot these days for my job and being able to watch ESPN waiting in airports and such is an idea that appeals to me- if they offered ESPN2, ESPNNews, and ESPNU in addition to ESPN for that same fee or maybe evan a buck more I would have already signed up).
I hope people realize this
I hope people realize this isn't the local fox it is other fox channels.
i am cancelling my
i am cancelling my subscription with time warner (even w/penalties) if i do not get fox
I personally wouldn't care if
I personally wouldn't care if they drop all of those channels permanently.
The only one of them that I watch is FX and that's fairly infrequently.
Just my opinion, but I say draw the line with these channels and let them go away-not one in the bunch that I'd even notice if it was gone.